Monday, November 7, 2016

Wait Program

In my Oct. 27 post, I wrote, "We're barely over two weeks away from the season's official tip-off when the Knights face Livingstone (N.C.) at the Glenville State (W.Va.) Tip-Off Classic." Then I added jokingly, "Keep in mind, though, that the world could end Nov. 8 if the United States elects the wrong person as President."

Well, the Gannon Hoops world spun off its axis today when the university launched a press release saying, "The Glenville State Men's Basketball Tip-off Classic scheduled for Saturday, November 12th and Sunday, November 13th has been cancelled due to several teams with budget constrictions. The host school announced the decision Monday afternoon."

I'll dig into this more -- Is Gannon one of the teams with the budget shortage? I swear I was going to send in my booster club donation later this week! -- and let you know if the school is allowed to share anything publicly. I also want to find out if these two games will be made up in a different form later this season, though I don't see any obvious gaps in the Gannon schedule. And even if they are made up, there's no stopping Gannon from starting PSAC play Nov. 19 (at West Chester) without any games under its belt.

I don't recall anything like this happening before on the college level. I've seen it with an occasional summer rec league games and once for a grade school tournament, but never in NCAA play.

Updated 11/7/16 8:38 PM: Gannon SID Dan Teliski quickly emailed me back just now to say, “Gannon was not one of the programs with budget issues. We are disappointed we are not able compete in the Glenville State Tip-Off Classic, but the lack of teams made tournament officials cancel the event. We respect the decision of those teams who elected not to play and the tournament director’s decision to cancel the event. Unfortunately, the notice is just too late for us to find any replacement teams. Luckily, these were two additional games we were playing on top of the normal 26 games allowed by NCAA rules. The two additional games are allowed if they are part of regional challenges.”

33 comments:

  1. Gannon was to play Shaw and Livingstone. Glenville's site also notes the tourney's cancellation. The games in Glenville aren't even mentioned on Shaw's and Livingstone's sites, as if they never existed.

    This is too bad because the extra two regional games are nice for our strength of schedule come NCAA time.

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    1. the tournament was on both of their schedules previously, as I was checking out their overall schedules and rosters to see what we were going against. I'd imagine they just took them off the schedule rather than just writing "CANCELLED" like Gannon's schedule now shows.

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  2. Sadly, I think this situation is the initial shot across the bow of events that may take place with a bit more frequency in the future.

    I hope I'm wrong. I think it goes back to many comments by our entire group over the last several years regarding liability and general low crowd attendance.

    This specific tournament, for example: Would the crowd size have exceeded 250?

    Again, I hope I'm wrong.

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  3. Detroit is now 0-2 in their exhibitions vs. Division II teams after Tuesday's 85-79 loss to Ferris State. The Titans lost by the same score last week to Wayne State (Mich.).

    Le Moyne fell at Syracuse, 97-64, with former Knights CJ Ascuncion Byrd (15 points, 5 assists) and Isaiah Eisendorf (4 points, 4 rebounds) contributing.

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    1. also of note from that game - Kaigler DNP (doesn't say why) and a stat that I think is impressive LeMoyne still registered 19 assists compared to 15 TOs. IUP lost to Syracuse by 18 pts and they had 15A-13TOs and in the slaughtering against Villanova they had 9A-17TOs.

      I think it's impressive, regardless of score, when a D2 team can 1) keep their TOs in low teens and 2) have a positive A/TO ratio. It at least shows that their offense, aside from shooting more than likely, was functioning smoothly against a D1 defense.

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  4. Just looked at the Slippery Rock roster: 12 players total with 5 of them from Marshalltown CC in Iowa. Three seniors, 8 juniors, and 1 sophomore in all. Of the 6 underclassmen on the roster last year, only 2 returned. So 10 new players this season, all of them transfers.

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    1. He must've recruited Marshalltown starting lineup from last year haha

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  6. GU Women opened season with a loss to Virginia State, 62-51. Played a tremendous second half, but still came up short.

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  7. Cheyney opened its season with a 135-55 loss to West Liberty. Goodness gracious!

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    1. Clock ticking as to how soon Cheyney announces the funding for certain sports, including both basketball programs, is discontinued.

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    2. A larger question is whether Cheyney will even exist, let alone its athletic programs. Enrollment plummeted from 1,000 last year to 700 this year. School neither well-funded nor well-managed, based on what I read.

      Sad to see this happen ... Cheyney is the oldest HBCU in the country (founded in 1830s) ... But HBCUs don't serve the same purpose they served way back when as other schools are increasing minority enrollment. Many PSAC schools have a higher minority enrollment than Cheney has total enrollment.

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  8. GU Women now 0-2 following a 26-point loss to Lincoln PA.

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    1. And Lincoln lost the previous night to Millersville by 21. Va. State, who beat Gannon Friday, lost to MU Saturday, 75-62. Not the start to the season Jim Brunelli had in mind.

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    2. This team is going to be lucky to get 5 wins. And I mean that.

      The underreported strife on the team, and the inaction by leadership looks like it'll have a karmic effect on this team. I feel for those young ladies as they're about to be berated, again, for a long season.

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    3. Three of their best players left the team for a reason.

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    4. as I stated throughout last season several times... as disappointing as the guys were on the surface - the girls were more disappointing, in my opinion, but you had to go beyond the surface. Yes, they had a decent record, but they started out well and then faltered quickly the second half of the season. That team was supposed to be Cleve's "dream team" - I get when they lost (I can't remember her name and I can't look it up) their big girl at the end of the season that hurt them tremendously, however, they weren't doing as well as they should've been with her on the court. She was - they weren't. Then you graduate players and have some starters leave and have to bring in a whole new team.... not a good thing! As we've seen... a men's program can do that and have success because of the JUCO/CC scene - women's isn't the same. You don't see too many JUCO/CC women go to a higher level and take over as they typically don't go to the JUCO/CC for the same reason a men's basketball player would.

      So while I know everyone was irate with the men's outcome, look at the overall team they had. Their record was equal to what they had (no big men, no prolific 3 point shooter, no true point guard, no great defender, etc) the girls record was very underwhelming compared to the team they had.

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    5. Corey, there is so much more to the story that you're even talking about. I know at least 10 different parents from this last season and over 20 from the last 5. I can assure you that it was far more than just one player (Jennie T.) being "lost" during senior night that caused strife. The stories I could tell would be ridiculous. I sent letters to the school. I know many other did. And I will not purchase a season ticket from the school while he is employed. As far I know, I know at least 5 other ticket holders who, having heard stories from parents over the last few years, did not renew. I'd expect to see small crowds all season. And this women's team? I'd wager 3 wins at best. And honestly, I'm not sure how or where. I'm willing to imagine that they'll end 2016 without a win. And I'm not gloating about this. I'm disgusted. From what I've heard, the transfers (incl. Mitchell) and freshmen now understand WHY so many girls left, and why seniors had been going to Lisa (who silenced and dismissed abuse stories) for years.

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  9. From the Le Moyne men's basketball website:

    Sophomore guard C.J. Asuncion-Byrd (Greenwich, Conn./Greenwich/St. Thomas More/Gannon) scored 19 points in the second half to lead the Le Moyne College men's basketball team to an 83-65 season-opening win over Concordia College on Saturday afternoon.

    Isaiah Eisendorf registered 9 points and 7 rebounds in 25 minutes while Daniel Kaigler scored 3 points in 9 minutes of play.

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  10. Golden: 100% correct. The heck with the basketball or other sports programs there. The big question, as you noted, is the schools' entire existence.

    I'm not trying to be a pessimist here, we are all diehard Gannon Hoops/sports fans in general...but, anyone besides me note the paltry attendance figures for the PSAC girls games this weekend?

    Can these trends, discussed in this space multiple time, be reversed?



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  11. Former Knight Note:

    Gabriel Adersteg, Bethesda College, is the team's 3rd leading scorer (11.3 ppg) and 3rd leading rebounder (4.9) while playing the second most minutes (24.8 per game). He has played in all four games this season for Bethesda starting 3. Shooting 51% from the floor and 34% from 3pt range.

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  12. West Chester is 0-2 as they went winless in the West Liberty Tip-off tournament losing to Notre Dame OH 87-96 and the host 91-117.

    Cheyney currently sits at 0-2 with the previously mentioned 55-135 loss to West Liberty and then a loss to Notre Dame OH 63-69. They actually did better against ND than West Chester did. Before their meeting with Gannon, they play tonight vs. Virginia Union and host Mercyhurst Saturday.

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  13. My tickets arrived in the mail today !! LETS GET THIS THING STARTED !!!1

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  14. Chutney lost at home last night to Virginia Union by 27, 90-63.

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    1. Gannon women lost to Shepherd, 53-66. Maggie Mitchell, a JR transfer from Ashland University, had a career-high 30 points, meaning she scored just shy of 57% of the teams points.

      Neither team shot that great (both a bit over 30%), Gannon outrebounded Shepherd, but the kicker was the AST/TO - Ashland 13/11, Gannon 8/23. Gannon had 2 players with 5+ TO's, 2 with 3 TO's and 3 with 2 TOs.

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    2. If Gannon doesn't Cheyney, they should cancel the basketball season and start a knitting program!

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  15. Some PSAC Notes:
    - Notre Dame OH is 3-0 against PSAC teams, handing Mercyhurst their first loss last night
    - Edinboro is 2-0 with double-digit wins vs. Thiel and Lake Erie College
    - IUP is 3-0 with all high double-digit wins vs. Lincoln, Urbana and Bowie State
    - Strouds is 1-2 with a close loss to Shepherd, a loss to Wheeling Jesuit and a win against Concordia, NY
    - after a pair of beatings by D1 opponents (Tennessee and Central Michigan), Slippery Rock is 2-1 with a brutal 18-pt loss to Wheeling Jesuit, a nailbiting victory (57-55) vs. Shepherd and a pounding against Ohio Eastern (94-61)
    - Wheeling Jesuit is 3-0 in the MEC with 18 point win vs. Rock, 11 point win vs. Strouds and a 121-82 slaughtering of Point Park

    Let's go Knights!

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  16. Really stinks that the games last weekend were cancelled ... Gannon is the only PSAC men's team that has yet to play a game. Millersville is the only team to play one. All others have played two or three games, including West Chester. Will be a big disadvantage on Saturday.

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  17. Was reading online edition of Slippery Rock student newspaper and they have their basketball preview special section out. Found it interesting that five of their current players are transfers from Marshalltown Community College in Iowa. Found it kind of odd that so many transfers are from the same college. SRU pipeline? lol

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  18. Also, 11 of SRU's 12 players are transfers. I think if you want to look at why attendance is down in D2 basketball, I believe transfers are a big reason. Fans can't get behind a team that changes every year. You rarely get four-year players anymore. Sad for college basketball -- even sadder for fan bases.

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  19. Can anyone explain why Gannon didn't get two forfeit wins from the cancelled games? If a team is unable to play a game, whether it is short staffed or whether it ran out of gas money, those both seem like forfeits to me

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  20. Can't Gannon host a tournament of this type?

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