Saturday, April 2, 2016

Off-Season Forum For Gannon Fans

I'm creating this post as a forum for Gannon Hoops fans to share their thoughts, comments, and rumors during the off-season. I was starting to feel bad about how much scrolling and navigating folks had to do in the previous post which to date generated a blog-record 140 comments.

Speaking of blog records, in late March we surpassed the 500,000 mark for page views. I started this as something I thought might appeal to my family -- well maybe just two or three members of my family -- but to be over the half-million mark for a one-program Division II basketball blog is mind boggling. And through all those years I still have yet to make won tipo!

In case you're wondering, here are the all-time most popular posts in Gannon Hoops history:
  1. The World Is Still Flat -- March 31, 2015 (2799 page views)
  2. Cleve Will Leave -- April 19, 2013 (2670 page views)
  3. Reilly Officially Returns -- March 28, 2012 (2314 page views)
  4. Gannon's Bailey Finishes With A Flourish -- Feb. 24, 2016 (2171 page views) [Editor's Note: Great to see a walk-on focused article crack the top 5!]
  5. If You Can't Finish, You're Finished -- March 5, 2013 (1960 page views)

I also created this post to extend best wishes for a speedy recovery to Gannon Hall Of Fame inductee and longtime official scorer Rick "Stats" Klapthor who is currently recuperating after heart surgery. Stats is one of the most knowledgeable scorekeepers on the college level, but more importantly he's one of the nicest people I know.

UPDATED 4/7/16 (edited from the comments section): I heard Gannon rumors today from two sources. First, I received this info from a Gannon fan today:

"Check out this web site www.verbalcommits.com/schools/gannon and you'll see C.J. Asuncion Byrd transferred out of Gannon. Does this mean his high School buddy Ian Gardner will leave too? Kind of like the Stephen Battle, Bubby (Johnson) thing. Some good news is it looks like they signed a 6-9 225# kid R.J. Coil."

Coil played juco ball last year at Schoolcraft College in Michigan after originally signing with Division I Marist. This URL will take you to some video highlights from last season. Updated 4/27/16: Reports are that Coil has committed instead to Florida Tech. 

A co-worker told me that Erie Times sports writer Tom Reisenweber retweeted yesterday this statement from Cleveland St. Edwards point guard Sean Flannery: "Proud to announce that I will be continuing my academic and athletic career at Gannon University! #GoldenKnights"

Here are three great video clips. The first is a few possessions from the Burger King Classic at the Hammermill Center. The second is from six years ago with a summary beginning, "one of Ohio's top 7th graders ..." Pretty funny to see such a youngster featured! This one is the most valuable because it's several highlights from his senior season at St. Ed's. I say this as a compliment: he looks like a real pain in the neck. Flannery is quick, super aggressive with the ball, and really bothers his opponent on defense. He's the son of St. Ed's coach Eric Flannery, and it shows.

155 comments:

  1. don't know if this was mentioned at all, but one recruit for the Women

    Kiana Canon Marshall HS (Marshall, WI) PG

    http://host.madison.com/wsj/sports/high-school/basketball/prep-notes-marshall-s-kiana-canon-commits-to-play-basketball/article_62442c0a-1c08-5f0e-8e17-0f2480c226fe.html

    ReplyDelete
  2. I heard Gannon rumors today from two sources. First, I received this info from a Gannon fan today:

    "Check out this web site www.verbalcommits.com/schools/gannon and you'll see C.J. Asuncion Byrd transferred out of Gannon. Does this mean his high School buddy Ian Gardner will leave too? Kind of like the Stephen Battle, Bubby (Johnson) thing. Some good news is it looks like they signed a 6-9 225# kid R.J. Coil."

    Coil played juco ball last year at Schoolcraft College in Michigan after originally signing with Division I Marist. This URL will take you to some video highlights from last season:
    https://youtu.be/5XWGQOFBAb8

    A co-worker told me that Erie Times sports writer Tom Reisenweber retweeted yesterday this statement from Cleveland St. Edwards point guard Sean Flannery: "Proud to announce that I will be continuing my academic and athletic career at Gannon University! #GoldenKnights"

    Here are two great video clips. The first is a few possessions from the Burger King Classic at the Hammermill Center:
    http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3455276/highlights/288244376

    The second is from six years ago with a summary beginning, "one of Ohio's top 7th graders ..." Pretty funny to see such a youngster featured!
    https://youtu.be/nXmdAZt3yAg

    ReplyDelete
  3. verbalcommits.com says Isaiah Eisendorf is transferring, also R.J. Coil is not a sure thing others are recruiting him including mercyhurst

    ReplyDelete
  4. Also Kevin Kuteyi transferring according to veralcommits

    ReplyDelete
  5. Thanks for the info. That means Gannon is losing its top five scorers from last year -- Toupane (#1) and Boykins (#5) were seniors and now Kuteyi (#2), Eisendorf (#3) and Byrd (#4) are transferring.

    The leading returning scorers are Matthew Dogan (6.5 ppg), Ian Gardener (6.4 ppg) and walk-on Max Kerr (2.4 ppg).

    ReplyDelete
  6. Kutyei is not a surprise in transferring - he was an explosive shooter and a good kid all around, but, as Jim mentioned previously, his defense is lacking (to be nice).

    Eisendorf is a little surprising, but not shocking. The coaching staff wanted more out of him, in his all around game, and I don't think he responded the way they were hoping. I believe he took it as an attack on him.

    Byrd, however, to me is a HUGE shock. He seemed to be a good fit for Gannon. Clearly he was a gifted offensive player and he was a hard-nosed defender - with only the potential to get better! I think now the biggest shock will be if Gardner DOESN'T LEAVE!

    Also, remember, when players leave during the season that is typically because they are "leaving" the program on their own. Some may stay at Gannon and continue academically and some may end up transferring elsewhere. However, when players are noted as transferring this close to the end of the school year... it can still be them leaving on their own, but it can also be the coaching staff pulling their scholarships. With at least one of these players I can see that being the situation.

    RE: RJ Coil. According to most of the stuff I've read - Gannon was pursuing him last year (prior to 15-16) and he was supposed to come to Gannon and then ended up going to the JUCO he's at. Besides verbalcommits.com, I've seen nothing indicating him leaving the JUCO. Not saying it's not accurate, but just odd that he turned down the school and would now be reconsidering it. (unless his grades were sub-par and he went to the JUCO to get those up while still playing ball).

    ReplyDelete
  7. Gabriel Adersteg apparently transferred after Finals last semester to Bethesda College and played the remainder of the season there.
    http://bethesdaflames.com/sports/mbkb/2015-16/bios/adersteg_gabe_na15

    ReplyDelete
  8. Both Eisendorf and Kuteyi have posted highlight tapes on their Twitter feeds, so I'm thinking they intend to leave the school. Those are designed to attract other schools, not a Gannon intramural team.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. that would make me wonder if they didn't lose their scholarships or have them reduced. Would you declare transfer without having a school lined up? When I saw the videos I immediately figured they were "let go", per say.

      Delete
    2. Not surprised they want out. Look at their roller coaster minutes played stats game to game. Not to mention the expectations of players in the system, per se. 😀

      Delete
    3. I don't know much about the mechanics of transferring, but don't players need to declare intent to transfer before a school can recruit them? Otherwise, it's tampering.

      Delete
    4. I've wondered the same thing because, for example, with Adersteg he's listed as being recruited to Bethesda in November - he was still on roster at that point and he finished the semester at Gannon academically. Maybe players are allowed to "ask" to look elsewhere and talk to certain schools without officially declaring a transfer? i.e. - they declare it with Gannon, but not NCAA.

      Delete
  9. Jim: I got a chuckle out of your comment that Gannon is losing it's top five scorers. What scoring? So it looks like the staff has to recruit a whole new team...again. What a mess this program is in.

    ReplyDelete
  10. Maybe Reilly can recruit some more seniors and just not play them. At least they wouldn't be able to leave the program. I'm a glass half-full type of guy...

    ReplyDelete
  11. How can you blame Kuteyi or Eisendorf?

    Am I the only one who thought that Kutyei was a much better player than he playing time he received? He pretty much carried the Knights to victory against Mansfield and UPJ. And he was on the all-tournament team because of another win, Lemoyne. He was a huge factor in three (sadly, nearly half) of our wins. He may have not been a good defender, but he gave us more on offense than he took away on defense. What the hey? Play Kuteyi!

    And I thought that Eisendorf was one of our two best players and had a TON of potential. He played 15 or fewer minutes in seven games. He played single digit minutes in two of the games. That's absurd. I don't care how "selfless" a player is. You have to have a some degree of consistency in playing time. Really going to miss seeing Eisendorf's skill and all-out effort for the next two years.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I do disagree about Kutyei. I think he was talented in terms of his shot, but that was it. He was more of a shooter than a scorer. (just for example sake - JR Smith is a shooter... he typically needs to take a bunch of shots to reach his "average" or a sufficient number of points. Steph Curry is a scorer... typically if he takes 15 shots, he has 30+ points. His shooting percentage is higher because he doesn't have to hoist up 20 shots to get 15 points.)

      Kutyei was also a huge liability when he wasn't shooting. Was very turnover-prone and never looked comfortable on the floor moving without the ball and, most especially, on defense.

      Eisendorf, however, I completely agree. I get you have goals for a kid, but when they are goals of "X # of deflections a game, X # of touches in a period of time, holding an opposing player to under X # of points" etc. you can work on those while he plays. And they definitely had no one better than him for that position on the bench. So it's not like you had a wide-eyed frosh salivating to take his spot. I could see if you told him to work on his TO's and to keep them up 3 that if he got 2 in the first half... maybe sit him a bit longer than you would someone else. Something like that. But those "coaching points" goals... c'mon man!

      Delete
  12. RJ Coil is also on Mercyhurst's list.

    ReplyDelete
  13. Blazek is 5th leading scorer for Niagara in the Canada NBL; played every game, starting about half. He is also teammates with former GU player Clinton Springer-Williams, who is the 6th leading scorer on team.

    Jabs Newby has not seen the same success. He was traded from the Mill Rats after 1.5 seasons to Missisauga and then released. He made the Raptors 905 team (NBADL) and then was waived and is now back with the Mill Rats, but not seeing the floor much.

    ReplyDelete
  14. Kuteyi was no more of a liability then anyone else they threw out there. I personally didn't think his defense was much worse than Byrd's.

    The team won like 6 games and I believe KK was personally responsible for 3 of them (as gannon89) points out.

    Quite frankly KK is an MVP candidate for that AWFUL team we watched last year.


    (But don't blame Reilly, he's just the head coach)

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I do not disagree with you with the comparison to Byrd. However, Byrd was a frosh and was also plagued by a broken foot throughout the season. I'd rather see a kid that has 3 years remaining playing that kind of defense than a kid that only has 1 year remaining.

      Also, remember, two of those three games he "won" he was also was the reason they needed to win it at the end. Specifically, was it @ UPJ when he turned the ball over twice (once with lead that led to tie and second that would've led to game winning basket if UPJ converted). Then he hit the big 3's to help win it. Have to remember both sides of it - not just the big shots.

      Delete
    2. speaking of the turnovers... Kuteyi had 43 TO's in 459 mins and Byrd had 20 in 319.

      and for the "off the ball" stats... Kuetyi had 26 rebounds, Byrd 28.

      Delete
  15. So who's back next year? Dogan, Fustine, Matey, Jones, Kerr, Gadson? A 2-24 record will be overachieving.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. and Gardner... so we'll give them 3-23!

      Delete
  16. There was a comment made that maybe the coaches pulled some scholarships. You want to kill your program just start pulling scholarships the other schools would kill you with that info out on the recruiting trail. It is the coaches decision to give a scholarship and it is their responsibility if they make a mistake. It is a different story if the recruit is missing practices blowing off classes or causing problems in the team. If the recruit is practicing hard going to class and behaving you better not start pulling their scholarship.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. now I know it is a different scenario, but Coach K has publicly stated the reason this kid or that kid didn't return was because the coaching staff reduced or were going to terminate their scholarships because "they didn't fit the Duke system". In some sense of the words, he essentially said if you recruit a kid and it doesn't work out and you know it's not going to work, why would you give them money to go to school for free so they can just sit on the bench and take a spot of someone else that will fit better?

      Most recent example is Souilamon. Coach K and himself both stated that he had his scholarship pulled and that is why he transferred to Maryland.

      I don't think this is going to hurt Duke's recruiting... it sure didn't this past year.

      Delete
    2. Souilamon had been previously suspended. He was pretty much kicked off the team. Duke and Coach K have to word it very carefully because there were assault allegations. That's different from having a scholarship pulled because his basketball performance wasn't up to expectations.

      Delete
  17. I agree 100% with Bob. If Gannon ever started pulling scholarships based on poor performance or recruiting mistakes(has Gannon ever made any?)that would be the end of their recruiting. Every coach in the country would used it against Gannon when trying to recruit the same players.

    ReplyDelete
  18. wonder if verbalcommits.com knows something we don't... Max Kerr is now listed as a scholarship player (Gadson still listed as walk-on).

    ReplyDelete
  19. Adam Holm-Weber apparently returned home and played "professionally" for his former basket ball klub Vaerlose BBK. Also on that roster is Marc Fabricius who at one point was supposed to come to Gannon or rumored to or maybe he came and quit... i don't remember.

    ReplyDelete
  20. Riley has had more one-and-dones than John Calipari!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. yeah but at least the majority of Coach Reilly's "one-and-dones" finished their academic careers elsewhere.

      Delete
    2. Is that supposed to be something to Riley's credit?

      Delete
    3. no, against Calipari. Coach Reilly recruits student-athletes; Calipari recruits for the NBA.

      Delete
    4. But the goal of Calapari's (or any top-level D-I player) is to get to the highest level of pro basketball. If I was that good, I would surely want to go play for a coach that could maximize my chances of playing in the NBA.

      The NBA's age limit rule is the reason for the one-and-done's. It's not the NCAA's or Kentucky's fault. Calapari (who I am not a fan of) is better than most at recruiting that kind of player. It is what it is.

      Delete
    5. Isn't the goal of attending college to prep yourself to get a good job? Calipari preps his players to get million dollar jobs. In that respect, what does it matter how long his players are in school? His one-and-done players get million dollar jobs, thanks largely to his coaching, and do a lot for the school in the meantime. What has Reilly prepped his one-and-dones for? They come here, don't like it, and leave, and that's it. They are not leaving because of high-paying jobs.

      Delete
    6. Yes, but it's supposed to be to do it with a degree...

      Delete
    7. Correct ... in a perfect world, that's the way it's supposed to be. This is the NBA's fault, IMHO. They have the age limit. Before a certain year, there was no age limit and guys like Kobe, LeBron, and Kevin Garnett went right to the NBA out of high school. But that was bad for the NBA as many too-young players went to the NBA. So the NBA instituted the age limit, which meant that players turned 19 after their first year of college.

      Again, nobody (even Calipari) thinks that this is an optimal situation. But the NBA doesn't care -- it's their rule and the one-and-done issue won't change until the NBA changes this age limit. Until then, top level Division I coaches need to operate in the confines of the rules they are given. As much as I hate Calipari, he's the best at recruiting these guys and helping them achieve their goals (to think that their goals should be to get a degree is incredibly idealistic). It doesn't always work ... ask Ben Simmons.

      Delete
    8. it still could work out for Simmons... he's still projected as top pick in draft (why, I have no idea!)

      Delete
  21. well Ibrahim Kamara can be taken off the GU list... his twitter says "WSHS '16, UBB '20"

    ReplyDelete
  22. Everyone knows that it's deCorasyon, not dekorasyon. Learn to spell, buddy.

    ReplyDelete
  23. That's rite. What a dope. Dunkalotagos de la biscuits O'Reilly otto partes.

    ReplyDelete
  24. According to VC, appears Eisendorf is more than likely going to join former GU teammate, Dan Kaigler, at LeMoyne.

    ReplyDelete
  25. some other player transfers/departures from PSAC:

    former GU player Nolan Woodward went to American International and is now transferring out.

    - Marquis Marshall (Strouds) transferring to Alvernia Univ.
    - Kalusha Ndoumbe Ngolio (IUP) is leaving
    - Josh Williams (Rider) is transfering to Strouds

    ReplyDelete
  26. Heard a promising freshman on the GU woman's team is transferring. Looks like "Reillyitis" is catchy at the Mill.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. supposedly three (3) women's players are leaving. I've heard two (2) frosh and a soph and also one (1) frosh and two (2) soph.

      Should be interesting over the next few weeks/months.

      Delete
    2. - Elissa Ellerbrock's facebook page says that she left Gannon University.
      - Don't have a name, but heard that a recruit Coach Brunelli has a commit from has now de-committed.

      Delete
  27. The sad part is both of these head coaches apparently have long term contracts and there is nothing the administration can or will do to stop the bleeding. I think a lot of season ticket holders that I have talked to have seen enough.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I'm more displeased with the women's program at this point. Coach Reilly has had his up seasons and his down seasons - this season he didn't have much to work with (since his recruiting obviously didn't pan out as intended) and their record reflected that. I'm expecting a big turn around next season, but if there is not then I'd say it's time to look at alternate options.

      When Coach Wright left, however, not many were lost to graduation and I don't believe any of the girls left to go with him or transferred away during the transition. So Coach Brunelli took over a consistent Top 15 contender. In his time, they've really done nothing to match what was expected from the group (especially this year with the group of talented seniors that was oft referred to as the "Dream Team" for the GU Women). Now one player is definitely confirmed as leaving and rumors have it possibly up to three total departures are expected (and this is after they had a "good" season minus not making NCAA's).

      Neither program is where they ought to be, but I'm very interested to see where they are next year.

      Delete
  28. So James R. confirmed that Coach Reilly has four (4) signed at this point. We know one (1) is the Flannery kid. Interesting to see who the other three (3) are.

    ReplyDelete
  29. RJ Coil has committed to Florida Tech. GU & Hurst both lost out on him.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I'd avoid our crummy spring weather if I could, too.

      Delete
  30. per verbal commits, Eisendorf is going to LeMoyne to follow former teammate Daniel Kaigler.

    ReplyDelete
  31. Hope the Dolphins are in the GM Classic because I like watching IE play.

    ReplyDelete
  32. The LeMoyne X-Knights. Wonder if they win 7 games?

    ReplyDelete
  33. They are all good players. I'm sure they will win a few more than 7

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. i believe they won a few more than 7 last year (LeMoyne), so I'd see no reason they wouldn't again this year... or the next 2-3 years at least.

      Delete
    2. This will be telling then, don't you think? Reilly could only win 7 with Byrd and Eisendorf. If LeMoyne wins more, that says a log about Reilly, though nothing most of us don't already know. Which brings us to the 2016-17 theme and the quest for 8 wins: 8 Great Knights!

      Delete
    3. i don't think you can go directly with that as it wasn't just Byrd and Eisendorf playing. If so, then with Kaigler and Eisendorf Coach Reilly won 23 games - so if LeMoyne doesn't win 23, what does that say about their coach?

      Or if LeMoyne only wins a few games this season, are we to say that Byrd is the common denominator in the bad seasons?!

      Delete
    4. Understood. Just think this will be interesting seeing Kaigler, Eisendorf and Byrd on same team and see what could have been at Gannon. Wonder if there is an NCAA rule that says whenever two or more former Gannon players are on the same team, that team will win the national championship. It worked for Florida Southern.

      Delete
  34. That is for sure. Although I don't think LeMoyne is getting these players at the same team caliber that Battle and Bubby went to FSU haha

    But it's definitely going to be a real kick in the teeth watching them thrive at LeMoyne.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I thought Kaigler looked disinterested and ordinary during the LeMoyne game here. (while at the same time playing an excellent NCAA game versus Slippery Rock in his final Gannon game.)

      Best wishes to Eisendorf and Byrd.

      Delete
    2. Kaigler shot .507 from the field last year, better than anyone on the Gannon roster. He averaged 7.6 points and 4 rebounds, nearly identical to Eisendorf and Boykins.

      He didn't do much in the Gannon game, for sure. LeMoyne didn't make much effort to get him the ball. I thought maybe that was by design on the coach's part, not putting pressure on a player returning to his old home court. Who knows.

      Delete
  35. Kudos to Gannon SID Dan Teliski for sending me this email addressing several rumors surrounding the GU basketball programs:

    In terms of transfers, we have three men transferring and one women’s student-athlete transferring. The men are Kevin Kuteyi, Isaiah Eisendorf and C.J. Asuncion-Byrd. The women’s player transferring is Elissa Ellerbrock. That is it for the transfers. Everyone else will be returning.

    Along those lines, none of our women’s basketball NLI’s (National Letters of Intent) have decommitted as some have asked me. The two press releases we did on the five women’s NLI’s signed can be found at http://www.gannonsports.com/news/2016/5/5/womens-basketball-gannon-womens-baskeball-inks-two-during-ncaa-signing-period-brings-2016-recruiting-class-to-five.aspx and http://www.gannonsports.com/news/2015/11/25/WBB_1125150604.aspx?path=wbball.

    Unless I hear otherwise, we will announce the men’s recruiting class all at once when classes begin in August as we normally have transfers in the mix and they don’t sign NLI’s. Thus, they aren’t official until attending class.

    And both of our head coaches are still with us and will be coaching next season. I’m sure there are a ton of other rumors out there, but those have been the main ones I’ve been constantly asked.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. really surprised, but happy, that Gardener is staying. Appeared him and Byrd were a "package" deal in most of their recruiting.

      Delete
    2. Good news about Gardener. Not so much good about the rest. "And both of our head coaches are still with us and will be coaching next season." 76-47.

      Delete
  36. "GO": Wonderin': Did you get your Mercyhurst season tickets, yet?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. speaking of season tickets, can I use my season tickets to go to Lemoyne games seeing that they have three of our players? Makes sense to me !!

      Delete
    2. While I don't think they should be good for LeMoyne's season... I do think you have a valid point and LeMoyne should allow Gannon season tix holders in with GU tix for like 4 or 5 games. I mean if it wasn't for Gannon, LeMoyne probably wouldn't have these players... so they owe us!

      Delete
    3. News FLASH.... You can use your season tickets for any Lemoyne game (according to a recent news release) at any Lemoyne games played in downtown Erie. :)

      Delete
    4. They owe us more than that... lol

      Delete
  37. RIP: Jack Polancy.

    Truly unique in his craft.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I worked for Jack for two years in the 1970's. He was a great boss, a great teacher, funny, kind hearted, straight forward, blunt and had a unique insight on sports and the people who play them. And Jack, if you're listening, I'd still take Russell over Chamberlain.

      Delete
  38. Thanks, Jon. According to Verbal Commits, Izaha Jackson has verbally committed to Gannon:

    http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/izaha-jackson

    Year 2014 (JR)
    Position PG
    Height 6-0
    Weight 175
    Hometown Brooklyn, NY
    High School West Side High School
    Junior College Monroe Community College

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Last PG we had from MCC? Joe Lindsey... only this kid is a bit bigger than Lindsey.

      Let's hope the skill is similar too.

      Delete
  39. Will GU be looking for a new WBB coach? I've heard stories and they are not pretty.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Just guessing, no. Apparently the plan is for the men and women to tank the season and try to get a lottery pick. Of course that's dependent on each program having enough players to field a team.

      Delete
    2. I think it's time the final men's GU/Hurst hoop score was posted again.

      Delete
    3. Well, like I said before, my disappointment was more with the ladies' side than the men's program. The men were horrendous, but they had nobody. For the women - Cleve Wright was supposed to have left the "dream team" behind at Gannon and Jim Brunelli was the one to take them to the promised land. He couldn't have been further from it! So if his recruits don't work out this season, I'd expect him to be gone after the 16-17 season. As long as the men show some improvement, even if it's 13-14 wins, I'd assume Coach Reilly would be back.

      On that note, however, none of Brunelli's recruits have backed out (that has been announced) and he's only lost one (1) returning player... if he was leaving/gone, I think more would be too.

      Delete
    4. 97-49? Was that it? I seriously don't remember it without looking lol

      Delete
    5. oh, i didn't give them enough credit on defense lol

      Delete
    6. From multiple sources close to the team, McKenna and Brennan are both not going to be on the women's team next season.

      Delete
    7. I've not heard anything about McKenna, but I did hear that Brianna Brennan was not going to play basketball so she could play volleyball her senior year.

      Delete
    8. on McKenna's twitter she has a tweet that says "...I started to cry thinking about all the mems and how I'm going to miss them..." and then a friend who she mentions, on her page it says "...don't want Kenna to leave, will miss her..." (friend is a GU student).

      Delete
    9. Girls have roster up. 5 gone

      Delete
    10. Correction: 4 girls lef5
      Did some research
      Brianna Brennan (SR) is at GU, but playing volleyball
      McKenna Shives (JR) transferred to West Liberty
      Elissa Ellerbrock (SO) transferred to Findlay University
      Can't find anything on Kelsey dugger

      Delete
    11. Correction: 4 girls lef5
      Did some research
      Brianna Brennan (SR) is at GU, but playing volleyball
      McKenna Shives (JR) transferred to West Liberty
      Elissa Ellerbrock (SO) transferred to Findlay University
      Can't find anything on Kelsey dugger

      Delete
    12. Looks like Kelsey Dugger Has Med probs. She is listedas Student Ass't Coach
      What happened to the other 2 coaches???
      Tsunami coming the sunny isle??

      Delete
    13. Wow. Hope the recruits are good, because it could be a long season for the ladies otherwise. Lanise is the only returnee who played a lot last year.

      The second assistant coach for the women's team is usually a revolving door anyway. Nobody stays for more than a year or two -- it's just a stepping stone position. Top assistant Whitling is still back.

      Delete
    14. Could be long?? Will be... See IUP, Cal, MHurst, SHill etc. I'm just beside myself with GU BBall as of late and that includes the men's team

      Delete
    15. Add in edinboro Oh vay! I have a headache. Then hillary gets elevated to OJ status.

      Delete
  40. Maybe combine the two...would be a better offense than the men's team of last year.

    ReplyDelete
  41. Replies
    1. guess we'll have to see if he pans out at the D2 level. nothing too brag about at CCSU (especially that he got into a lot of foul trouble.. 4 fouls in 15 mins or less in 4 diff games).

      BUT, as a freshman that is a big adjustment. Interested to see.

      Delete
    2. 4 quick fouls... Must be a strong defensive minded coach who stressed nothin' but D :0

      Delete
    3. You guys have no idea. Get your tickets! Sit back and enjoy.

      Delete
    4. You'll have to forgive us Mr Eldringhoff, we are all kind of snake bit after last season.
      I would love nothing more than to "Sit back and enjoy"

      Delete
  42. Nice article about Teliski and all Erie SIDs.

    http://www.goerie.com/tom-reisenweber-sids-are-unsung-heroes-of-college-sports

    ReplyDelete
  43. Found this
    Hans Burwitz 6'7" from Allen Tx (Dallas metro)
    https://twitter.com/burwitz_hans

    ReplyDelete
  44. Not to add to the misery, the head assistant just resigned to take the head coaching job at Mansfield. So now we are looking for a replacement assistant.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. the ladies have a 27 game sched. 1 game is with Cheyney that should be 1 win, but then again its at Cheyney. Soo... Maybe some other PSAC team will have an off night and we can get 2 wins this year.

      Delete
  45. Wow. Whitling and Brunelli had been together for a while, three seasons at Gannon and three at Anderson. Both are Clarion grads.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. somethings going on with that program behind the scenes... 4 players and 2 coaches are gone?

      Delete
  46. Sounds like the men's program.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. apparently it's becoming a Gannon thing... however, on that note, the men never had a mass exodus after a WINNING season... it was always after losing seasons (players lost from last season may be the least of all the off-season exits we've seen)... For that many players and 2 coaches to leave after a winning season (even if they didn't achieve their goals) is a little alarming, to me at least.

      Delete
    2. When good players quit on you and your assistants bolt, I think you need to look to the head coach and ask why? What's going on with your program? Has anybody asked those questions?

      Delete
    3. Good players quitting is now a Gannon tradition. If the administration is asking questions, it's a secret. It's easier to get information about D-I programs a thousand miles away than it is about your home town team. And when your men's team simply goes through the motions to cap off a seven win season by getting pounded 76-47 at home in a game against your cross town, in conference rival, and the coach returns, well, hard to imagine anyone in the administration cares.

      Delete
    4. i agree with you both, GU and GO. Only thing with as far as Admin goes... I would suspect when it comes to Coach Reilly, they look at yes he's had the worst seasons in Gannon history, but he's also had some of the best. He's had some awful recruiting classes (in terms of fitting at Gannon), but he's also had some absolutely phenomenal classes as well. So he's shown that even though they get knocked down - he can get them back up again. As I stated many times throughout this past season, in my opinion, this year is a determination year. If the men's program struggles again - I think he may be gone. If they rebound like they have in the past, he'll be back.

      For the women's, however, Coach Brunelli took over a team that Coach Wright had poised for a National Championship run. The program has progressively gotten worse under him.

      2012-2013 under Wright - lost in Elite 8 - final record 31-5
      13-14 under Brunelli - lost NCAA 2nd round final record 28-4 (all losses to Boro)
      14-15 under Brunelli - lost NCAA first round - final record 21-8
      15-16 under Brunelli - lost PSAC quarters - final record 17-11

      If he has a big rebound this year - all good! However, I am not expecting it. I'd be on the guys before the girls, but again... hope I'm wrong!

      Delete
  47. "GO: Players quitting/transferring takes place every spring at almost every program after the NCAA tournament concludes. It is an annual rite of passage. Dozens took place at all levels, as reported in the "transactions" area of our newspaper.

    ------

    Thanks for the 5 month old update on the final 'Hurst/GU score from last season! We almost forgot!!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. This is an old discussion. Gannon has an unusually high number of good players leave its Reilly coached teams and now an equally long exit line has formed outside of Brunelli's office. You'll never acknowledge that. So I'll just keep saying 76-47. And you can't see it but right now I'm clicking my ruby red heels together and chanting "there's no place like home unless the score is 76-47." By the way, can you give us a list of all the players who quit the Mercyhurst and Edinboro teams since the conclusion of the NCAA tournament?

      Delete
    2. To answer your question
      Mercyhurst
      - lost two (2) non-graduating players
      - Recruited: FR 4, JR 1, Grad Players 2
      - Roster has: FR 4, SO 2, JR 4, SR 4, Grad Players 3
      Edinboro
      - doesn't have updated roster yet

      Delete
    3. Repeating: It happens everywhere. I fully acknowledge it because not only does it happen here at Gannon, it indeed takes place everywhere. It is part of the life of college athletics, and, students in general. (My own daughter, initially enrolled at the Rock, and, transferred to IUP.)
      ----------
      Another old discussion: The (several)Mercyhurst players booted off the team some 5 years ago due to a "theft ring".......



      -----

      Recruiting: Progressing nicely.

      Delete
  48. men's schedule out... GM Classic features Ohio Dominican, Malone and Lake Erie...

    other non-conf game is Bowie State at home on 12.07.16.

    After seeing a non-conf team for at least the past two (2) years... think they intentionally avoided a certain team from being on the schedule? haha

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. and other non-conf at Wheeling Jesuit on 12.18.16

      Delete
    2. Haha! Yes, we need to hide our players from LeMoyne.

      Delete
    3. that's what I was thinking haha Darn that Beilein!

      You do have to wonder, though, if just his name helps him get some recruits... wonder if his dad ever makes a guest appearance with recruiting haha

      Delete
  49. Sked thoughts:

    The PSAC season starts with five crossover games. The final crossover game (Mansfield) is played in mid-January.

    It looks like the December 3 at Lock Haven game is actually played at home. That's how it appears on the women's schedule and it makes sense.

    Not sure if it is deliberate, but I like the Friday, January 6 home game. It seems like a Saturday home game in early January always conflicts with the NFL playoffs and the Steelers are playing.

    All five Saturday non-tournament home games (two in December, two in January, and two February) are in the afternoon. Is the administration moving toward all Saturday afternonn games? Boo. I prefer Saturday night.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. This comment has been removed by the author.

      Delete
    2. I wonder if the PSAC schedule is set by the conference and not the schools. You'd think the administration would be concerned about dwindling attendance but if it is there is no sign of it. The games are not promoted in any way. No advertisements. No players getting out in the community and encouraging people, especially kids, to check out the Golden Knights. 7-19 record and no comment from the administration. Men's team still hasn't even announced recruits. Women's team has. Why can one but no the other? Gannon used to be the only game in town and we like to blame the change of status on the Otters, Bayhawks, etc. but Gannon has done nothing to keep the games in the must-see category. Unless you're a die hard fan you wouldn't even know GU plays unless you check the one line schedule in the newspaper on game day. And that's if you still get a paper. The only up side of all this is that we always get a good seat. :)

      Delete
    3. I think SID Teliski made a comment previously that the men's roster/recruits will be announced in August "like we always do"; or something like that.

      Maybe Coach Reilly isn't fully done recruiting and Coach Brunelli is?!

      Delete
    4. I think its actually who shows up at school on the 1st day. Then they know who's on the team for sure.

      Delete
    5. good point - a lot may just be "verbals" still and in August they "enroll" and are legit.

      Delete
    6. I think the high school kids you can pretty much count on, but the XFRs
      until they show up for class. Well... there's a history with these kids
      switching for a better deal or bigger school at the last minute. We seen it before.

      Delete
  50. The dates are set by the conference, but not the times for the most part. I think that Saturday / Sunday crossover games need to be in the afternoons, but schools have control of the starting times for the other games.

    I agree that the success of the Otters, Bayhawks, SeaWolves has been the fact that they are able to get families to attend. Until Gannon figures out a way to do this, attendance will always be poor. Or if Gannon can increase student attendance -- this is probably the easier way to get better crowds.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. agreed, the student support is very disappointing. More should be done to encourage them to go.

      Delete
    2. The University can always do more to get them go. At what point is it on the students to actually show up at the game? How many GU students regularly attended their high school's games? Probably not many. Maybe times have changed.

      As Yogi Berra once said, "If people aren't going to go to the games, how can you stop them?"

      Delete
  51. http://www.psacsports.org/custompages/mbball/Basketball%20Schedule%202016-17.pdf

    As you can see, the 2016-17 conference schedule was determined in September 2015. First five games are crossover. I also like the fact that during the first round of intra-division play, the teams with a bye play each other.

    ReplyDelete
  52. Jimmy Berger st ignatius Cleveland, Michael Haysbert cecil college, Hans Burwitz texas is in verbalcommits.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. http://www.hudl.com/video/3/1596271/5721e59964e96b638030a9ee

      Brief highlight reel for Jimmy Berger. Now, do not take this for anything more than what I am saying, but his play (in this video.. not saying it will definitely transfer over to college) resembles that of an Adam Blazek. Great court vision, great handle, dribble/drive with confidence, annoying defender (that is said with respect though lol), in your face, on the ball. That is the person I can compare him most to from this video. Now the only thing you don't see in this video is Jimmy ever attempting a jump shot. It shows him driving the lane for some layups and a few of those awful Dellavadova lob shots, but no jump shots or 3 point attempts. So, if shooting is an issue, that wouldn't be much of an improvement with the current squad that is returning.
      (again, all my personal opinion and not predicting what will happen - just sharing)

      Delete
    2. http://cecilathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2015-16/releases/20160719ony9x8

      not much to be found on Haysbert, but this is a nice article about his leaving Cecil to go to Gannon. His coach is quoted as saying "We hate to lose Michael, but this is what it's all about. He worked his butt off in the classroom and on the court" and it paid off.

      Delete
    3. Hans is not a new name - just making it official it appears. If you look back through the thread his name was mentioned a few times earlier, but there was nothing else to be found on him (and there still isn't).

      Delete
  53. I watched Adam Blazek. I cheered for Adam Blazek. Adam Blazek is an acquaintance of mine. Corey, Jimmy is no Adam Blazek.

    (With apologies to former VP candidate Lloyd Bentsen) :-)

    Seriously, let's not get carried away. Berger may be a fine recruit, but any comparison to one of the top GU players of the past few decades may be a tad premature. Blazek also had a knack for the big moment ... the key shot, steal, or pass at the perfect moment. It's impossible to tell whether Berger will fit that role.

    ReplyDelete
  54. As I said do not take that for anything more than it was meant. I was not proclaiming him to be the second coming of Blazek. I merely said in watching the video the comparison I thought of it was Blazek because of his style - left handed, Good handle, strong dribble drive, Good court Vision, "annoying" I'm your face defender. It was just a comparison of styles.

    ReplyDelete
  55. Saw some videos on Hans Burwitz out of Texas. Inside player looked pretty good.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Reminds me of Al Chrisman. Not saying he'll put up Chrisman numbers, just saying his game reminds me of Chrisman.

      Delete
  56. Just saw that the Men have two (2) more games added to the schedule. A few days before the PSAC games that were originally their first games, they now have the Glenville State Tip-Off tourney. They play (I believe) Livingston and Shaw in those two (2) games.

    ReplyDelete
  57. It Wednesday the first day of classes? Does this mean official recruit info once we confirm that the newbies are actually in their classes?

    ReplyDelete
  58. Yes, tomorrow is the first day.

    ReplyDelete
  59. kids are back today, but I believe they have roughly 10-14 days to officially drop classes, withdraw, etc. So we may be waiting a bit more.

    I've got the itch bad... whenever I hear the commercials for "NFL/NCAA Football are about to start" I automatically think "Gannon Basketball is coming soon!!!!!"

    ReplyDelete
  60. We are all like a kid at Christmas...can't wait to see the presents we got !!!

    ReplyDelete
  61. John said at the YMCA a couple of weeks ago he was done recruiting. Hope there is more out there then what was found out to date.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Heard the same. School has started. Unless there's a last second transfer in the wind we don't know about (I hope so!) it looks like they are going to run with 11 players (if they all showed up). Looking at what's on paper they certainly lost more talent than they are bringing in, IMO. It's early, time will tell.

      Delete
  62. Can't see them only having 11 players

    ReplyDelete
  63. Flannery, Jackson, Phoenix, Burwitz, Berger, Hayzbert, Gardener, Matey, Gadson, Dogan, Jones, Kerr, Fustine

    That's 13 players.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Stupid phone. Sent too early. That's 13 players that we know of. So could be a few tfr's to be confirmed.

      Delete
    2. I forgot about Berger and Haysbert as they are not listed on Verbal Commits site.
      I guess 13 is a possibility for the final number.

      Delete
  64. The official roster is likely to be announced next week. When that happens, I'll be sure to share it here.

    ReplyDelete
  65. and then there were 15....

    http://www.gannonsports.com/news/2016/8/29/gannon-mens-basketball-program-announces-2016-recruiting-class.aspx?path=mbball

    ReplyDelete
  66. I posted back in early July that recruiting was "progressing nicely".

    Well, it has.

    ------------

    RE: Jimmy Berger: His father was a VERY good player at my college, John Carroll University, in the late 1980's. Tough, smart, physical.

    I have to admit: I see a bit of Adam Blazek in him, myself. (Like the comments posted above.)

    ReplyDelete