Saturday, December 21, 2013

Christmas Ruins Christmas

Perhaps the only silver lining to Gannon's incredibly disappointing 67-64 overtime loss at Bloomsburg is that I can amuse myself by using the above headline. Bloom senior Lorenzo Christmas, who nearly doubled his scoring average by exploding for 23 points on 6-of-9 shooting on threes, sent the Knights into their 12-day break with a big fat lump of coal in their stocking. It probably also didn't help Gannon that on the first day of winter they were facing a team whose head coach's last name is just one letter away from "snow."

As I wrote in my post after Gannon's three consecutive wins last week over mediocre/lousy teams, the Bloomsburg game was a test if the Knights could rack up a lot of wins this season. Of course, one game doesn't make-or-break your year, but this loss -- plus the four other early season stumbles -- put 6-5 Gannon in a precarious position entering 2014.

Here's the way I see it: the Knights are 5-3 at home and 1-2 on the road. If that pace holds steady the remainder of the year, Gannon will be something like 5-2 over their remaining 7 home games and 3-5 over their final 8 road games. The math on that works out to a final regular season record of 14-12. That's ho-hum, not "Ho, ho, ho!"

If GU would turn things around and go 6-1 at home and 5-3 on the road, they'd rally to be 17-9. Am I accurate or pessimistic to say that's the best we can hope for based on what we've seen through 11 games? To get 20 regular season wins, the Knights will have to finish 7-0 at home and 7-1 away against a schedule that features undefeated and nationally ranked IUP (#7) twice and a game at East Stroudsburg (#12) on Jan. 3.

OK -- we can't go into tho holiday break on that depressing note. I should let you know that I'm fired up to see that walk-on Cory Bailey registered his first career basket Saturday vs. Bloom. Every account I've received says Bailey is a quality person and always works his tail off, so it's nice to see him be rewarded for his efforts. Had Gannon prevailed vs. the Huskies, the headline to this post would have been -- and you have to sing it in the tune of the First Day of Christmas -- "... And A First Hoop From Cory Bailey!"

68 comments:

  1. Great win for the Gannon women, 65-63, at Bloomsburg. Jen Papich hits a shot with 3 seconds left to break the tie.

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  2. Gannon down 63-61 and Bloom actually had the ball in the final minute.

    Gannon forced turnover, Nettie Blake lay-up. Bloom miss & GU rebound. Papich layup. Winning basketball.

    A GU men's win would make Christmas extra merrier!

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  3. Sigh. This has to be the first game in the history of basketball where a team outrebounded its opponent 45-23 and lost.

    I guess that's what you get when you play against a guy named Christmas on December 21. Bah humbug.

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  4. Do we have ANY play for the end of game situation. This is at least the fourth time that we are tied or down by one and end up firing up a three with a second or two left. We only needed one point to win would you not penetrate for two points or a foul ? Maybe the men's coaches would like to consult with the women's coaches on how it is done.

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  5. Bob, our team basically made a nice rebound after a good look missed shot, and made the put back at the buzzer that should have counted. Essentially, TWO good shots to win.

    Christmas came early...............in more ways than one.



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  6. Well both of the blazek theories were put to rest today. He had 21 pts and shot 53.3% from the field... And Gannon lost.

    Was nice to see raph have a solid showing as well as Cory get into the scoring column. However was disappointing to see Roger Porter and CJ all falter when the team could've really used them.

    Oh well! Excited for 2014 play... Hope everyone has a very safe and happy holiday season.

    UKnighted 2014

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  7. Just got back from Bloomsburg. This is a game that SHOULD have been won straight up in regulation. Here is the final 1:35 of regulation for GU. Turnover for GU, Bloom dunk for 2, GU shot clock violation, 2 Bloom FT and the end of regulation put back that may/may not have been good. The shot clock violation was the killer, you HAVE to get a shot up and see what happens. A basket there basically puts the game away. Just feels like this has happened again and again.

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  8. Weren't there some missed ft's in there as well when GU had the lead? I don't think that helped either. I have said before that GU as presently constructed cannot play the "milk the clock and get a good shot" game. They just aren't that good at it and it cost them again today. They're better off taking the first good shot they get and hope because they have had little success scoring at the end of the shot clock. Also thought that fouling with 48 seconds to go in OT would've been better than playing it out and risking giving up a hoop (they had trouble getting stops when they needed to all day). Maybe fouling and extending the game would've worked better there.

    When you lose in OT, there are a million things you can look back on and wish you'd done something different. Have to look at it as a learning experience. It wasn't a Division game. The Western Division games have to be the focus from here on out. Pretty much all that is left.

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  9. The sad thing is lately in each game we hope for a win and expect a loss.
    Should be expect a win and be disappointed with a loss.
    Many of the above comments seem to be spot on. But I never played the game so what do i know.
    GOD BLESS all and happy Holydays to all

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  10. Did anyone listen to the post-game? B/c one of the most indicting statements against the current coaching staff was stated in it. Wow.

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    1. Amicucci asked what play Reilly drew up at the end of the game on the final TO. I was told the response was: "We told Adam to create."

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    2. Hahaha. Wow. This better be a joke.

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  11. Yup -- Sounds about right. Coach of the Year. 14-12 record sounds about right too, Jim. It's so exciting!!

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  12. And everyone wonders why I complain about Reilly and his staff. This is the 3rd season in a row that Reilly has Blazek create in a close game where we need a basket at the end to win or tie. To my knowledge Blazek has yet to create a basket when it was really needed.

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    1. The Bloomsburg defender was on Adam like white on rice so to speak, not much Adam could have done at the end.

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  13. Focus on one player is high school level coaching. The post game said it all.

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  14. Wow....go easy on one of the best players in the PSAC, Jim.

    Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good KNIGHT!!!!

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    1. From what i have read, I don't think anyone is focusing on one player (Blazek) - I think that the focus is on who sends a 19 year old out to do "mission impossible". You cannot tell him to "just create" without some sort of play and 2nd option. If those don't come open, then create. Everybody on the PSAC know that Blazek will have the ball on the last shot. The definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over and looking for different results.

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  15. Before you guys keep whining about what an incredibly foolish strategy Coach Reilly implemented at the end of the game, please watch these video clips. If you view only the first play from each of them, it will take 3-4 minutes of your time:

    1. http://youtu.be/kPvD25pK1B8

    2. http://youtu.be/V19Z9bwtGTk

    3. http://youtu.be/dBLcRQKsS6I

    4. http://youtu.be/_9lH5cxFl9g

    5. http://youtu.be/TU-BGoQ65zw

    6. http://youtu.be/VUwDIn7TL_Y?t=3m57s

    Did you notice a trend? In each case, the coach's strategy was to get the ball into the hands of the team's best player and let them create. This strategy is used frequently by successful, highly respected, million dollar, Hall of Fame coaches.

    They implement this strategy for several reasons, chiefly: (1) you get the ball in the hands of your best player, (2) you limit the number of passes on the possession, reducing the chances of a turnover which would give the other team an opportunity to win and (3) you can time the attack to come just before the clock expires, giving your team a chance at a shot and offensive rebound but not giving the other team enough time to advance the ball downcourt.

    To disagree with the strategy and the coach who implemented it is fine. But to describe it as "a joke", "high school level coaching", and "insanity" is preposterous.

    As #453 said, "Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good Knight!"

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  16. Fire breaks out at Hammermill Center. Said to be in basement weight room. Smoke and water damage. Still developing.

    Hope that nobody was hurt and that it will still be usable when players return from Christmas.

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    1. Thanks for that info. Here's a video report from JET-TV. Looks like there was lots of smoke. You wonder if the facilities -- lockerrooms, restrooms, offices, etc. -- will be usable anytime soon:
      http://www.yourerie.com/news/news-article/fire-breaks-out-in-gannons-hammermill-center/d/news/news-article/XBrXFS2OO06AvxNmDQ8esQ

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  17. Kyrie Irving, Kevin Durant, Chris Paul, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, Adam Blazek. Which one of these names doesn't belong there? No offense to Adam but lets be real. To put Reilly's coaching strategy in the same class as those successful, highly respected, million dollar, Hall of Fame coaches is preposterous. Jim Brunelli called a time out, drew up a play the the girls had never practiced before and ended up winning the game because of his coaching strategy. Thank God he didn't look at Jen Papich and suggest that she just go out there and create. Maybe it is time for Reilly to consider moving back to Kentucky and returning to the place that he admittedly cares more about than Erie.

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    1. We get that you don't like Coach Reilly, which is too bad because he's a quality person.

      But please tell me what is wrong with a strategy that: (1) gets the ball in the hands of your best player, (2) limits the number of passes on the possession, reducing the chances of a turnover which would give the other team an opportunity to win and (3) timing the attack to come just before the clock expires, giving your team a chance at a shot and offensive rebound but not giving the other team enough time to advance the ball downcourt.

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    2. In addition to Roddy's comments, when Coach Reilly says "we told him to create"; it's not like he was saying they sent him into a sword fight with a butter knife! They have plays they practice and run throughout the entire game. Now not that I am inside of Coach Reilly's head, but from my experience coaching and playing, in situations like that when a specific play is not designed.. it's because they want to allow the players to take the best shot possible. If you draw up a play and even if you have options for all 5 players, if all 5 defenders are closely guarding or figure out the play, then what? The person with the ball is forced to "create" something, is he not?

      Roddy is exactly correct, you want the ball in the hands of your most versatile offensive threat, you want as little to no passing as possible to eliminate an uncontested breakaway off of a turnover. During the play, Sean said Blazek called out a play so obviously he had something in mind. Everyone and their grandmother knows that Gannon and Adam would prefer Adam to take the shot, however, Adam is a smart player and was probably either trying to get screen for a good look for find Talley or whomever off a screen for an open look.

      Busbee going by your evaluation of this, every football team that has a quarterback that has ever called an audible on his own, the coach should be fired for allowing the QB to "create" an opportunity based on the look of the defense.

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    3. In the 9 years that Reilly has been here utilizing this strategy how many times has it been successful? I can't recall any. Between his obvious inability to manage timeouts and what I consider his lack of strategy GU will be doomed in tight games that come down to the final shot. History really does repeat itself.

      By the way, you're right Reilly is a quality person and as a person I do like him. However, as a coach of the GU men's program I am very disappointed at where we stand after 8+ years on the job. He has managed to take this once proud program and reduce it to what it is.

      And did I hear him say the other day that he didn't want to be know as an offensive team?

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    4. Well I can recall George Johnson's jumper with milliseconds left on the clock that I believe won the opening round of one of the tourneys a few years ago. Stosh hit a GW 3ptr when the D was guarding Pierre and Goldcamp as if they were the only 2 players on the court besides the on-ball D on Lindsey. Now that's only 2x I can clearly remember and even if it's 2 out of 100, it's more than you're giving them credit for.

      I think it is funny that GU has done one thing this year multiple times that they've struggled with tremendously pretty much since Coach Reilly started and no one has made mention of it. Remember everyone complaining that GU couldn't break full court press? Well they've done it several times this season. But let's not compliment that change that was made; let's focus on a game we lost in OT at the campus of a respectable ball club.

      I find it humorous that everyone rips Coach Reilly and his staff when they have done more with the GU program than most past coaches have. How many NCAA tourney wins did Coach Slocum have? But because he had a very nice record every year, people praise him as near God-status. But when you schedule a bunch of nobody's for your non-GLIAC games, a 20-8 record should be the norm.

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    5. Who said that Slocum was revered? No one could stand that they'd fall apart in the 1st round. I recall trips to Adrian MI, Indiana PA & beyond to disappointment. Gannon had a great thing going when they had Tom Chapman - the game has certainly changed, but that decision to not move to D1 certainly has loomed over this program. Not that I think they should have per se, but losing Chapman was significant.

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  18. Slocum near-God status?? The ceaseless knock on Slocum was that he couldn't win NCAA playoff games. As I recall, no one was teary eyed when he left. Considering the constant criticism he was under, Slocum probably didn't shed any tears either on his way out the door. So now we have a coach that, aside from one gift wrapped year, doesn't even get to the NCAA playoffs. Better to have been to the big dance and lost than to not go to the dance at all.

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    1. It was exaggeration since everyone is talking about records for Gannon. And yes "near God-status" as early on (year or so ago, maybe longer... probably more towards when Roddy started this blog) people compared Coach Reilly to Coach Slocum... and it was about how Coach Slocum had such and such winning percentage and Coach Reilly didn't and that Coach Slocum made the NCAA's consistently (or at least went deep into GLIAC playoffs) and Coach Reilly doesn't etc. People were putting Coach Slocum on a pedestal when comparing to Coach Reilly. With the exception of Coach Reilly's first two years, Gannon has had a team that nearly every season has had a shot at the NCAA tournament and a chance to do something in the tournament. In the GLIAC, with Coach Slocum, we were guaranteed to make the conference tournament, but all knew they'd lose in the semis or championship to a Findlay, GVSU, Wayne State (back in the day), etc. who had thumped Gannon twice during the regular season. With Coach Reilly in the PSAC, again take away the first two years, they've competed in almost every game. Yes, a loss is a loss is a loss. However, they showed promise and hope. If we had to play IUP in the playoffs, it wasn't a "oh well, try again next year" as it was with the GLIAC and predominantly Findlay. George Johnson's last year at GU they played IUP first round at IUP and nearly knocked them off. Given their record that year, they should've lost by 40 points (I believe they had a losing record and made PSACs).

      Case-in-point, you can't put the blame on just the coaches (as I've stated numerous times before). Blazek and Talley going a combined 5-21 isn't the coaches fault. The staff can sit them down and talk to them about different strategies in their approach until they are blue in the face and it's not going to change a thing if they're just off that day.

      Coaches can draw up numerous plays, but everything has to fall in place for them to work. If a screen is missed, a defender switches man, a post player doesn't get good position, etc. the play is a dud and the players then have to improvise.

      My point of view... for the 600 people that consistently show up (probably closer to 300 if you take away the empty reserve seats).. be happy for what you have been able to experience and keep an open mind and positive attitude about the upcoming games, season, team, etc.

      UNC has lost to Belmont, UAB and Texas... narrowly defeated Kentucky, Davidson (OT), Oakland, and a D3 team. But have won 3 games vs. at the time Top 10 teams. No one is calling for Roy Williams' head on a platter (and he's had some "rough" years over the span of the past few years in regard to competing for playoffs in some seasons). Each season is different, just gotta take it one game at a time.

      Lastly, gogannongo, gift-wrapped or not, it was two seasons.

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  19. You all can talk about the current coaching in the PSAC verses GLIAC but it is an apples to oranges comparison. They are in two totally different regions and it is impossible to say how we would fare in the GLIAC. On the coaching side I have heard and read coaches saying that they practice end of game shots so that players are familiar with those type of situations and know what they are to do and do not panic. The current coaching staff will be with us for 2 1/2 years so we better hope they can get righted and put together a winning streak.

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  20. (Gulp): I'm hearing of damage of over $1 million down at the Audi.

    Some type of massive electrical explosion.

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    1. From what I was reading on goerie, the fire damage was limited to the room that the transformer was in, so that is a plus. The smoke damage/water damage is probably going to add up though.

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  21. You're comparing Reilly to Roy Williams? Roy Williams? Better alert UNC so they can grab Reilly when Williams retires. If the NCAA counted "almost wins" instead of just "wins" Reilly, at least according to your figuring, would top the list. So every year Gannon can proudly say we almost made the playoffs. How great is that? And while I'm no big Jerry Slocum fan I don't see any Division 1 programs sniffing around looking to hire away Reilly. That ought to tell you something.

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    1. I never once compared Coach Reilly to Coach Williams. I was comparing UNCs recent struggles to Gannon's. And stating that no one is going for his head. Also if Kentucky falls off the map again will Coach Calipari be on the hot seat? Me thinx not.

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  22. I've not posted in a while, but reading some of the above posts provides a good insight into what's wrong with the men's program. But, what is most troubling is the acceptance that many of us now have for 'mediocrity.' Years ago when Gannon was in other conferences we would look at the PSAC and the large number of men's hoops programs and viewed them as inferior. They would draw 400 fans per game, and no one seemed to really care if they were successful or not. Oh, there were (and still are) a few strong programs (IUP, etc.), but most were weak to average at best. What is most disheartening is the Gannon's men's program has fallen into that group and fewer people seem to actually care. No matter how some of the above individuals try to 'spin' this, we truly have a medicare men's program at GU.

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  23. I hate to use this old cliche, "You get what you pay for".
    GU fans want to be at the top or near the top they need to put out the bucks and just not find a guy who will work for what they offer. I have no idea what the current coaches are paid.
    Increasing that salary to the same coach may not be the answer. Would it help to open the purse and pay for a top notch coach? After all we do have the highest prices in the region by far ( @ $175/season ). When GU gets serious
    games will be won and the fans will return. Nobody wants to go and see their team almost win. They go for a good game and the hope for victory. Take either away and the crowds start to wane. As with other serious teams the coaches are responsible. They know that coming in. An old business man
    (myself, ha ha ) once told me " a dollar bill has no conscious". It doesn't have feelings and it does what it has to to remain alive.
    The faithful cry out to the GU powers. Fix it or continue to become irrelevant.
    Winning solves many issues. Coaches of a suuden become brilliant. Seats are being sold. Respect comes back.
    I don't know thw answers, but it's up to GU to pull their head out of the sand and look around at what's happening.
    There is unrest amoung the natives.

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  24. As we say goodbye to 2013 let's examine what each one of us can do to change this slide into mediocrity. If you're not a Gannon Booster Club member then join. If possible attend as many games as you can and be vocal. Think of ways to improve this Program and make suggestions. It's obvious we all have a desire to see Gannon Basketball get back on track. And finally let's look ahead to a better New Year!

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    1. Here's an idea. Lets get rid of Reilly and his useless staff and bring in a coach who can coach both offense and defense. Lets find a coach who can recruit freshman and keep them 4 years. Lets use a JC or 2 at best to supplement the young players. Remember the year Reilly brought in all those freshmen (Marcus Lemon, Altman and others) only to have them all leave the team. That can't ever happen again. It time to send Reilly back to Kentucky where he and his wife would rather be anyway. I really don't think his heart was really into it in Erie.

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    2. Yeah all of those freshmen left because they weren't division 2 players (exception Lemon who played at Philly U). All of them went to D3 and none of them did much better there.

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    3. Reilly's decision to recruit them speaks volumes as to his abilities as a recruiter on the D2 level. Just another reason to dump him while we can.

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    4. To the best of my knowledge Coach Reilly wasn't the main recruiter back then. The years they got Howard Lindsey etc that kid that went on to coach in some semi-pro league was the main recruiter. Farrow I think his name was...?! I don't know if he got the group if freshmen or not though.

      I think since then though recruiting has been good... We've not seen too many players since then that haven't been D2 ready. Mainly it just seems some egos have been put in check (Agee, GJ, Battle). Also some major injuries to potential superstars (Furno ESP. He ended his career well but if he hadn't had to deal with the injuries he could've been one of the top 10 bigs to play at Gannon. Can't predict injuries)

      Also Coach Reilly recruited three straight Freshmen of the year. But I forgot he can't recruit...

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    5. If you really think that Tanner Furno could have been one of the top 10 big men to play at Gannon either you're very young and haven't seen many games or you're blind. No offense to Furno, but he couldn't even carry Glen Summors or Kyle Goldcamp's sneakers. Gerry Walker? John Bowen? Jeff Husted? John Matthews, Mike Runski, Mitchell Smith? Lou Warren? Please! What have you been smoking?

      Maybe you are the one who has been helping Reilly with his recruiting.

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  25. corry---------- you're comparing UNC's recent struggles to Gannon's. OK. UNC has a boatload of ACC championships and several national championships. UNC gets an NCAA playoff bid nearly every season. Even with their "recent struggles" they are ranked 10th in the nation. Nobody is calling for William's head because, well, he's a proven winner. Reilly is not a proven winner. Reilly is a proven clueless offensive basketball coach who makes a living getting kids to play tenacious defense until they leave, usually early. Gannon has not been to the NCAA tournament since the 2008-2009 season. That alone makes Reilly at best mediocre and he's dragged our program down to his level: 6-5, unranked and playing in a nearly empty Hammermill Center. I would hope that no one who cares about this program is satisfied with that.

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  26. Reilly was a .600 coach before he got here and he is a .600 coach now. To continue to defend him and his philosophies with nba players and UNC is wrong. Reilly's not a bad guy, he's just a bad coach. If your fine with 400 people in attendance and getting knocked out of the PSAC playoffs then Reilly is your guy. I'm not fine with that. We need a new coach or nothing is going to change.

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  27. The problem with this program is much deeper than just the Coach. It starts at the top with the Administration. Gannon must have a better commitment to the basketball program in order to facilitate any change. If they are satisfied with mediocrity then things are going to stay the same. And let's not forget the Women's team. Undefeated, ranked number 2. Not too shabby!

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    1. I agree. I don't want to throw stones but somewhere someone is dropping the ball. Either they spend money to get quality coaching
      or stay the course. I'm not here to judge the current coach others do that. An exciting wining team needs to get on the court. If you need to replace a few things, then so be it. If it needs to be fixed, then get to it. GU needs to look at more then just the coaches.
      They need to find a way to get the students into the game. Open the north wall add student floor stands. Look at the ave age of most fans, In the 50's many older then that. What happens as more of us
      go by the way side?
      BK supports a major chunk of sports income. Football is the only other pay sport. If that's all you got spend the bucks to make it the only game in town where a sports fan wants to go.
      Where's the pep band? How about a few new concession items?
      How about cheerleaders at all home M&W games? An up to date scoreboard. Better sound system. Video board. All kids under 12 should be free. At EUP all seniors are free at both BK & FB. Every game should have a youth pre-game. GU needs to do whatever it takes to get back to the pre-eminent game in Erie. Every thing is same-o same-o. Don't rock the boat. Yeah, right! its sinking. The only thing they do new is come up with different ways to ask for donations.
      Time to wake up GU sports admin.

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    2. Fanman, all of your points are well-taken. However, the seniors-get-in-free doesn't seem to be having much of an effect at EUP. Student attendance has been an issue for some time, and I'm not sure there is much you can do to change it. There is one sure-fire way to get the Audi rocking again, and that is field an exciting, dominant team.

      All of the responses on this particular subject seem to be coming from long-time fans; fans who recall when it WAS the only game in town. GU basketball was also the only game on campus, so the athletics department could pour all of its energy into it. It just isn't that way anymore and we cannot expect them to revert to 1980's practices in 2013-14.

      One common denominator of those teams was winning at an above-70% level with an entertaining style and, for lack of a better term, "star power". Another common denominator was a more lax set of NCAA rules and regulations as to who qualifies to play. There are many small tweaks that could enact small changes, but winning will quiet the masses on here and unleash them at the Audi.

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    3. Probably the most intelligent and to the point post I've read here.

      The solution is simple. Recruit good players that produce victories. Bring in exciting players. Bring in 3 point shooters and actually let them shoot. What would Stevie Moyer have looked like playing for Reilly? Probably not very good because he wasn't that great of a defensive player. But could he ever shoot! The stands will be filled; it may take a while to bring back the fans but they will support the team. Defense alone will never win games. Look at the NFL. They figured it out. Rule changes have been implemented to enhance the offense. Well the NCAA isn't going to change the rules to produce more offense but an offense minded coach can certainly recruit players that will gives us that entertaining style that Reilly's teams lack.

      When was the last time you've seen so many empty plush seats as you've seen the last 4 or 5 seasons under Reilly? Remember, the season ticket holders are purchasing their tickets but they are not attending the games. Quite a few are going to the girls game then leaving skipping the men's.

      It is time for the administration to wake up and smell the roses. Either discharge Reilly of his duties or tell him that he MUST change his style of play that would produce a winning, more entertaining style of play. It is that simple.

      By the way, the last time the plush seats were as empty as they are now was back in the days of Milt Simon, pre-1962 or so. What a shame to see this once proud program relegated to second class status.

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  28. Bob says "The current coaching staff will be with us for 2 1/2 years so we better hope they can get righted and put together a winning streak." There is a person with a ability to depress me and at the same time think he is being positive. 2 1/2 years -YEH! maybe they would be better renting out the Hammermill for something that might generate money. Winning streak - have you looked at their schedule? Twelve, maybe 13, wins would be heroic. Last year I mentioned the down turn into mediocrity. Let me revise that - the next to years we have to come up to be mediocre.

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  29. Looking from the outside, this is the report card I would give the Coach. I would be interested in seeing where everyone else stands. I'm sure I probably missed a catagory (or two).
    Just my personal opinion. You can have yours and I can have mine.
    Offense "D"
    Defense "A"
    Recruiting "D"
    Game coaching "C"
    Player handling "C"

    "C" average

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    1. Compared to years past, no way this defense can be given an A. B at the best. How many wide open lay ups have we allowed whether by a slashing guard or a big guy? How many 3FGs have we given up with the defender just pretty much watching? Only reason scores were lower is because offense was taking 33 seconds to shoot. PAPG has gone up since the offense has attacked more lately.

      Player handling I'd say is a B at worst. How many years previous have we seen a starter get benched and then show obvious dissatisfaction on the bench? Dogan hasn't shown that once. He's been one of the biggest supporters off the bench. Other players on that scenario would be sitting end of the bench with no emotion and half effort to congratulate teammates. The players are getting along just fine on and off the court compared to previous years.

      I agree with the rest and that a C overall is warranted but I can't give a grade on game coaching. Unless you are or have been a division 2 men's basketball coach I see no way how you can grade a coach.

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    2. Offense: C-. Great field goal percentage (last year 35th out of 286 teams), but turnovers hold us down.
      Defense: A. Last year's team was 3rd in scoring defense and 8th in field goal percentage defense. How can you give it any lower than an A?
      Recruiting: C. No real statistical evidence to base this on. To give context, Slocum gets an A- and Dukiet gets a C-
      Game coaching: D. Poor use of time outs. Does not do well in situations where a hoop is needed to tie or take the lead. Do not like substitution patterns, though this year seems to be an improvement. Team struggles to hold a lead down the stretch.
      Player handling: No idea what this means.

      Other categories: Rebounding: A++. Player hustle A+.

      Not sure how to weight all of these. I suppose it averages to around a B- or C+ overall.

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  30. A little OT
    Heard the next H game (Jan 8) to be at PS Behrend due to recent fire.

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    1. An important question: How long will it take for the Hammermill to be back operational? For the Women...it's a HUGE deal, have not lost a home game since the 2012 PSAC Quarterfinals against IUP in OT.

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  31. Cory apparently you missed this line. "Just my personal opinion. You can have yours and I can have mine."

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  32. Last year's team won 22 games. Mediocre??? Probably missed the NCAA tournament by a made shot by a player who I have heard (3rd hand) was 28 years old when he made the shot. The negativity ran thick on this board a lot last year, just as it is now. The mindset is to continue on, and to ignore what the experts have to say.

    This season is far from over. I still believe that it will be a successful one. The recent theme seems to almost root for poor performance to justify opinions.

    I noticed some of the experts on the board had nothing to say after the big win down at Slippery Rock. Let's stay behind this entire team. It's a long season with many opportunities ahead.

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    1. I certainly agree that several folks are over-the-top in their criticism, but the overarching concern is that this year's team needs to go 16-2 the rest of the way to reach last year's 22-7 record that still wasn't good enough to make the NCAA tournament.

      Not sure of why the age of the guy who made the shot is important. As long as he was eligible, does it matter if he was 18, 28, or 68? We went to the national championship game once upon a time with a 25-year old and a 30-year old.

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    2. I'm not sure but isn't Rogerio Livramento almost 28?

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    3. Not sure, but he played his senior year of high school in '05-'06, which, if he graduated at 18, make him 26 at season's end.

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    4. At this time last year - The Men's team was 9 wins vs 2 loses. 453 the optimist sees this as similar to last year????

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  33. I'm not trying to be negative but I think they are a .500 team. They will have some big wins and also some disappointing losses.
    My personal opinion is it's time for a change of coaching staff.

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  34. Golden: Full disclosure department: I tutored that 30 year old several times while he was at Gannon. Although it's been a few years since we've spoken to each other, we have remained friends since his playing days here at Gannon.

    I'll be a bit more specific: I question the integrity of some of the events going on in the Slippery Rock Program. Lo and behold, Brooks (ex-IUP all-PSAC) plays (and makes gigantic contributions) in a game that pretty much eliminated us from an NCAA bid last year. Devin Taylor, as good as a player he was, is a question mark to me as well.

    Whatever. Water over the dam

    We have a group of players, a coaching staff, and, fans who represent Gannon well, and, you know what? I'm OK with that.

    Any other (typical) Gannon early season schedule, and this team is 9-2, or, 8-3, and, we are not having this discussion.

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  35. If .. if .. if.. well guess what. This is not any other typical GU early season schedule and this is the way it will be in the future. And we are not 9-2 or 8-3, we're 6-5. And if Reilly has his typical .600 season we'll be 16-10 or 15-11. Thank God we have the girls to look forward to.

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  36. Jim: Easy solution.

    Leave after the ladies game.

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    1. Lots of fans are already doing that.

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    2. Everyone loves a winner. Stop complaining what wrong with the team. What would you do to fix the team at hand beside getting rid of the coach?

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