Saturday, January 12, 2013

Knights Burned Playing With TMT

You knew this was going to happen sooner or later. During its 7-game win streak, Gannon was careless with the basketball but hot shooting, intense defense, and rugged rebounding overcame that glaring weakness of Too Many Turovers (TMT). But those strengths weren't enough Saturday night as Gannon lost a big lead before falling at West Chester, 66-64.

It's difficult to definitively say why a team lost a game when you didn't see one second of the action, but look at the game's stats and you tell me if you think turnovers made the difference:
* 2-point FG: Gannon 48.9%, West Chester 45.5%
* 3-point FG: Gannon 46.2%, West Chester 30%
* Free throws: Gannon 14-of-23, West Chester 13-of-19
* Rebounds: Gannon 38, West Chester 24
* Turnovers: Gannon 25, West Chester 13
* Field goal attempts: West Chester 55, Gannon 45

Basketball is complex, but if you consistently give the other team more field goal attempts than you -- the Rams shot 22% more FGs than Gannon -- prepare to hang your head after the game. 

The thing about turnovers is there's no known cure. If you stink at shooting, you spend more time in the gym putting up shots. If your defense is terrible, you give the scout team the ball for all of a two-hour practice and then coach up the D. But turnovers?

The best way I know to get better is to make valuing the basketball part of every conversation, drill, scrimmage, and game. During my playing days, Bob Dukiet brought a $100 bill to one of our practices and asked, "How tight would you hold onto this if I gave it to you? Treat the basketball like a $100 bill." The rest of the practice, and for several future practices, Duke would say after every turnover, "Juan, you just lost $100 ... Todd, you just gave away your $100."

I hope John Reilly has some effective words of wisdom for his team regarding turnovers. Or we'll be talking about TMT after a close loss again very soon.

26 comments:

  1. 25 turnovers, tough to score when the other team has the ball.

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  2. Have to find a way to close games like this one was. It's what seperates decent/good teams from great ones.

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  3. At halftime I was looking at the stats and wondered what was the largest lead was by Gannon. West Chester uses Sidearm stats and it wasn't there with the usual stats - http://www.sidearmstats.com/wcupa/mbball/scoreboard.aspx. So I used their contact form suggesting they add the feature thinking maybe I'd hear back in a few days. Less than a minute later I got a reply. They said there is also a media stat sheet for every game with that info - http://www.sidearmstats.com/wcupa/mbballmedia/. Pretty cool info for stat nuts like myself.

    I was impressed with the superior response by Sidearm and told them so. "We just do our best to provide the best possible experience for our clients and their fans. The media stats are a great functionality we added for basketball and football. They are also fully compatible with any device, looks great on phones and tablets. So hold onto that link for future use."

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  4. Wish this team could cut the turnovers to 10-15 a game...IMO, gonna have to; to be a great team. Against good competition 20-25 turnovers will KILL you at some point.
    Either way I'm really enjoying their success
    Hard to believe only 6 home games left.

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  5. Blazek needs to come back ASAP

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    1. The only person who disagrees with that is Greg Walcavich.

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  6. I would bet that a contributing factor to all those turnovers is that the team is playing tight. When you have 4 coaches screaming intensely at you for 40 minutes and dictating your every move, you will play tighter than normal. It's time for the coaches to let up on the unnecessary overmanaging and let the kids play. Remember, it's a game.

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  7. This year it seems the coaches have toned it down just a little on the yelling. Maybe they should stop running that back door lob play they've been running for two years now....... It doesn't work anymore and that's only one turnover a game but every possession counts, especially when you lose 66-64

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  8. Many of the TO's I have observed have been careless mistakes-traveling when just standing there (Newby got one of those in the last minute Saturday), 3 seconds, hurried, ill-advised passes, and so on.

    Even if the players could actually hear the coaches yelling (which does seem to be diminished this year, at least during games), I think the TO's are more the product of trying to play too fast and getting accustomed to the new offense. Which, incidentally, does involve a lot more passing, creating a lot more opportunities for TO's.

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  9. Not sure where the coach intensity comment came from as I, personally, feel the coaches have toned it down about 90% from where it was the past few years. The only real time I remember seeing or hearing about Coach Viscuso yelling was against Cheyney when all the techs/flagrants were assessed.

    As for Blazek, few diff things: 1) with the way Gannon has been playing, it's not like they "need" him back right now. I don't mean they don't need him at all, but they're clicking now. I'd really like to see him come off the bench as a sparkplug sub. 2) We complain about the TOs, but remember Adam has been one of the biggest violators when it comes to TOs. He had more, or right around the same # of, turnovers of other players who have played 15 games in just 6 games. So him coming back could be a great thing or could also be more turnovers (look at who the biggest TO violators have been the past few games - Wilson, CJ, Blanton, Furno). Blazek would more than likely put Macias on the bench and he's been solid when it comes to ball control. 3) He will, hopefully, help re-ignite the offense. The offense has been solid in terms of shooting % and similar, but they've been relying on their D to hold teams to under 55 pts so they can just score about 60. The reason they're shooting % has been so high is because they're not taking many shots. 4). I had heard he was just returning to PRACTICE this week... this could be false information, but if so, I wouldn't expect to see him get any kind of court time in a game for another few weeks.

    I'm not writing this team off (c'mon they're still what... 12-3? 11-3?) and I'm excited to see how the rest of the season unfolds. However, things will eventually explode if they keep messing around with TMT.

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    1. Blazek would have helped when Macias got in foul trouble.

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  10. oh, and another regards TMT that just about everyoen else has brought up at one point or another. Game by game, look at the the players who committed the most TO's and then look at how many mins they played. See a pattern?

    Up 21 with 4 mins left, why are your starters still playing?

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  11. Cory makes a good point about time played. I know we have two injured but we still have some pretty good players on the bench. If you look at West Chester against Mercyhurst a two point game their starters played a total of 105 minutes. Gannon against Cheyney a run away game our starters played 165 minutes. I know these kids are young and should be able to play two games in one day but I think that is only true if the teams you are playing are doing the same thing. West Chester game Gannon starters 153 minutes West Chester 134 minutes.

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    1. every year, same song and dance. Don't you get tired of the mantra?

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    2. you are correct, every year same song and dance. So maybe the DJ needs to switch up the music?

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  12. The overuse of starters is a subject that comes up every year. Coach Reilly is known for this, and it hasn't really changed much recently. Remember a couple years back when Piotrowicz was named the starter and played 40 minutes in 3 consecutive games? Wasn't this an issue with Blazek last year (I remember in the Seton Hill double OT loss that he was on the bench at the end because he was too exhausted to continue).

    It's the way Coach substitutes (or doesn't substitute, if you will), and I believe it can lead to "tired" turnovers-and other bad things, but let's not go there yet.

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  13. Amazing.

    This team is 12-3 and fans complain of coaches yelling too much.

    Hmmmm......5th and 6th grade memories!!!!!!

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  14. I agree with Corey. Adam did have alot of turnovers and his shooting percentage was 28% from the arc. He was probably just getting going when he got injured, now he will have to get his rythm going again. These starting five have a ton of experience between them. Their career stats in turnovers do not jive with how many they are having now. I think they are still playing tight and my only question would be why? 3secs, traveling, anxious passing seems to be a sign of running a play too long. If that makes sense??

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  15. The coaches still scream constantly, but the biggest problem is their micromanagement. They try to dictate every single move that the kids make on the floor. The kids can't think on their own anymore, especially in crunch time. There have been numerous times when they are standing around looking over at the bench in the closing seconds of the game with no idea what to do. Watch a Brad Stevens from Butler, he's not constantly screaming and only chimes in to make tweaks here and there, not ordering them around incessantly.

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    1. Even easier - watch Cleve at the end of a tight game. Or any game.

      Also, why has not a single person referenced the foul shooting in this game. You can't win a game on the road shooting 14-23 (and a few of those were the front end of 1-and-1s.

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    2. they're 12 and 3. Some of you would have complained to Jesus that you preferred beer over wine. One of the most legendary coaches on the planet made Riley and company look mimes. Next, lets complain that the new video scoreboard is too distracting.

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    3. my grandparents do not like the new video scoreboard... because of their eyes and the mixture of it with the lights, they have to wear sunglasses to watch the game.

      I don't mind it, but I think they could've better spent money (why not update the actual scoreboards?)

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    4. So when you run a business or have a job, you also tell people - just be happy with how it goes? No need to improve, or ask if we can do things better. A solid business plan there.

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  16. I, personally, am not attacking the coaching staff or blaming them. I was simply stating my opinion of what seems to be a fairly consistent correlation between # of mins played and # of TOs by a player.

    and I as well am surprised that FT shooting hasn't been brought up. esp by the guards. A team's guards are supposed to be the best "shooters" on the team... how can they hit 3's with hands in their face and then go 4-6 with wide open, mid-range shots? (also, could be a reference to minutes played).

    When I make a comment it is strictly an opinion, an observation, a feeling, etc. The team is 12-3, you won't find me crucifying anyone because they have 3 losses. But, as a coach myself, when you lose you always look to find things that could/should have been different and what to work on. These are just things that have stuck out to me.

    As for Blazek... I love the kid and his work ethic. Not to mention he is a tremendous basketball player as well as athlete. I, personally, however, feel that this starting 5 right now is the 5 to go with. And, yes, Blazek would have been a huge asset when Macias got into foul trouble. I think Oscar has more than earned his spot as well as the other 4 starters. I would bring Blazek in as a 6th man with Furno, Emmitt, Torrence as the next top reserves. That is just my opinion; I am not trying to make this a persuasion piece for Coach Reilly or to say that if Blazek starts when he returns that Coach Reilly is wrong. Just my opinions.

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  17. As for the free throw shooting, the team is 22nd out of 277 Division II teams. There is no reason to complain. This is a very good FT shooting team.

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